tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36914208.post6660842862736870131..comments2024-02-15T10:35:41.755-05:00Comments on Padre Mickey's Dance Party: Yoots Aks KweshunsPadre Mickeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07580459577853346369noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36914208.post-32524348797333638142008-05-28T02:20:00.000-05:002008-05-28T02:20:00.000-05:00And one more thing....Do we get to hear what you'r...And one more thing....Do we get to hear what you're going to answer??Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06874544354509669285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36914208.post-37319750828984434412008-05-28T02:16:00.000-05:002008-05-28T02:16:00.000-05:00Two comments, Padre. (When did I not have somethi...Two comments, Padre. (When did I not have something to say?)<BR/><BR/>The first is that it seems to me you have a golden opportunity to discuss the human dimension of the Bible -- i.e., it reflects what people thought God was up to, not necessarily what God was really up to. <BR/><BR/>The 2nd thing is to remember a conversation with my godson when he was 12 years old and asked me if I believed literally in the story of Noah. I gulped and said no and then went on to say basically what I just said. About 15 years later we were talking about that conversation. He told me it had been something of a test, that he knew perfectly well that I didn't believe it was literally true and that if I had tried to persuade him that I did, he would never have believed antything I said in church again.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06874544354509669285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36914208.post-68693901797153530842008-05-27T21:23:00.000-05:002008-05-27T21:23:00.000-05:00I do not envy you your assignment Padre. However, ...I do not envy you your assignment Padre. However, if they are just now studying the Flood, they will encounter many more stories were God changes God's mind. In fact, if memory serves me, the words used on occasion throughout the KJV Old Testament is "God repented." There are many occasions, as well, where folks bargain with God, trying to get God to change God's mind.<BR/><BR/>Are they studying on their own, or do they have a bible teacher? If they have a teacher, you also run the risk of your understanding running counter to that of the teacher.<BR/><BR/>Good luck.Brother Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333089314994730330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36914208.post-1315440471655434672008-05-27T10:35:00.000-05:002008-05-27T10:35:00.000-05:00I think the story of Jesus changing his mind when ...I think the story of Jesus changing his mind when the SyroPhoenician woman challenges him may have some bearing. (Mark 7:24-30); at least it'll give them more to think about!johniebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11635403219973766022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36914208.post-2106464682664940312008-05-27T07:31:00.000-05:002008-05-27T07:31:00.000-05:00An idea from a former believer, now current skepti...An idea from a former believer, now current skeptic, who like They Might Be Giants may get a medal declaring me The Nicest Of The Damned.<BR/><BR/>Of course God makes mistakes, at least the God of the Bible. He made a contract, then sent His son down to rewrite it. Some will say that's man's fault, but that's a silly view. God made man, and should have known who He was talking to, right? If you believe that Mohammad or Joseph Smith talked to angels, there are more re-writes to the contract than just the one.Matthew Hubbardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17769958949302039878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36914208.post-82028993045292634482008-05-26T23:08:00.000-05:002008-05-26T23:08:00.000-05:00Given the story as it stands, my fist (admittedly ...Given the story as it stands, my fist (admittedly scattered) thoughts would sound something like this:<BR/><BR/><I>We can't know what God was thinking, of course, because we are not God. Sometimes the best we can do is guess, based on what else we know of God. That's what's called theology.<BR/><BR/>Here, for example-- this is just one story in the Bible, but we read many others, and one thing we are always being told over and over is how much God loves each and every one of us, regardless of how good or bad we are. So that would be true here, too. Despite what the story says about how evil the people were, God still loved them. <BR/><BR/>You know how much it hurts and saddens us to have people we love suffer? And God's love is much more powerful than ours. So is it possible that the flood would have been an incredibly tragic thing for God, beyond anything we could imagine? So tragic and heartbreaking that he would not care to repeat it.<BR/><BR/>Do you think perhaps that's part of why Jesus came to us-- because God would rather take the pain on himself? Or maybe because he wanted to show us another way to solve our problems than by killing one another? </I><BR/><BR/>Not wholly formed thoughts, but there's a start...Jane Ellen+https://www.blogger.com/profile/07930706962327994732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36914208.post-79977085307076160452008-05-26T22:44:00.000-05:002008-05-26T22:44:00.000-05:00Same book, Two stories. The first chapter is the...Same book, Two stories. The first chapter is the divine - and everything is Good. Then we get the mist coming up (mist =mistake = error) and we get the HUMAN story. - some of don't accept that version as true. But we will never agree on this. jjaycoles@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16299489611656202052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36914208.post-1773186908235180622008-05-26T21:50:00.000-05:002008-05-26T21:50:00.000-05:00Jay, I understand what you're saying, but I know t...Jay, I understand what you're saying, but I know these young people and I don't think they'd accept the "God is Love" answer in this case. We're still working on what the Bible is and isn't, and it will take some time to wean them from the "God's Holy Inerrant Word" idea. Sure, God said the creation was good, but according to the same book of the Bible God was angry at humans and wanted to destroy them. The text states that God was sorry that He had made humankind; so perhaps God thought that He had made a mistake. I think them apples is inadequate.<BR/><BR/>I already know what I'm going to say to them, but I am quite interested in other's opinions, including yours, and I thank you for being the first person to respond.Padre Mickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580459577853346369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36914208.post-58984306244267063292008-05-26T20:38:00.000-05:002008-05-26T20:38:00.000-05:00This requires some thought and reflection, but I d...This requires some thought and reflection, but I did want to say I think it is an amazing post.<BR/><BR/>Those kids are great. I love that.Franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181529277715646835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36914208.post-86945774941137028512008-05-26T19:32:00.000-05:002008-05-26T19:32:00.000-05:00Well Padre, God don't make no mistakes. And God ...Well Padre, God don't make no mistakes. And God didn't send the flood or the hurricanes or the Tornado or any other disaster. God created everything that was made and "Behold it was very good." Even me, even you.<BR/><BR/>Those disasters are Mortal Mind disasters. God is Love. That is all He knows. That is all He wants us to know. He sends unconditional love. Sin is just us missing the mark and not seeing what Divine Love has given us. When we realize that we experience the Love that is God. Now How do you like them apples?jaycoles@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16299489611656202052noreply@blogger.com